Next week's guest: We're going to be talking to Bret Pettichord, who wrote "Testers and Developers Think Differently". And when I first read it, I thought, "Hmmm, I wonder if they're really these different, evil twins?" Whether it's really one personality that has schizophrenia. But we're going to be talking to him about the difference between testers and developers, why or why not they should think differently. And I hope you'll join us for the rest of this series. We'll be having Tom DeMarco, we've recently lined up two absolutely phenomenal standards experts, Peter Voldner and Stan Magee, who are writing a book on standards. Now, it may turn you off. You might thing that ISO standards, "Gee, gosh, that's a boring topic." They're going to be talking about taming your process with standards. And really picking the ones that will help you in your processes in developing better software.
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