I guess that's where there's more about agile out there so people can say well if this isn't working I’ll try this without really realizing that they're not getting the four things. They still may not do as well as they could.
JV: Right. It's important to really know the method you are trying to apply.
SB: And why you're applying it.
JV: And why you're applying it exactly.
SB: The same for tools as well.
JV: Totally, definitely. All right, this is a good place for us to stop. Thank you so much for taking time Steve.
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